Banner is too big. I just need small one.. just a badge really. and
actually itzdark is making it... i think..
The name... well, its up to everyone here.. the name i give also
just temporary, if everyone agree with IndiDev, then i'll change it.
No problem.
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
I must agree, we need a more professional logo. I would take it on but I'm technically on holidays. There also must be more that we can do as a fellowship to take on spam developers and/or Apple, rather than link swapping each other. If we're getting burried by these developers, then our fellowship is also getting no recognition from anyone, if you get what I'm trying to say.
Okay, let's say "the fellowship" managed to build a site with an iPhone/iPad app specifically for advertising our apps. Let's also imagine that this site and the app becomes wildly popular. Then it will turn out into any iPhone app advertising platform like Yappler (for instance), although I still doubt it could be that big without focused effort.
Then everyone wants to advertise, those with money will pay money (and at some point, money is needed to maintain the platform) to put themselves there.
How do we keep the site to be strictly for independent developers or at least small businesses ? The only way to do that is by having a free cost of advertising, while also having some people working on it to maintain the content. Something like iPhone App Index.
But, they're just a wordpress blog, with no iPhone app.
I don't know how that will work, but that's the way to do it (free advertising, and most likely self-publishing platform).
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
Last edited by mnemonic_fx; 01-28-2010 at 11:21 PM.
Well, actually I did not expect this to be big. I don't think we can make it big either. But the links page just a little something I am able to do to help. Probably just a small help... just a few kBs on my friend's server wont hurt.
Any of you guys are free to take over this idea from me. Especially this thread: Indie Apps Alliance looks promising.
But the main point is, just open to indie developers. And FREE of course! Then I'll also join it.
As for the badge, itzdark said he was going to design it. Im not sure whether he is still on it. Maybe not since its been a while. yeah the name sucks i know. you guys can suggest to change to any name.
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
Maybe there's no need for a icon. A short word like that is good if it's designed good.
The "fellowship of indie devs" is just too long and sounds like Lord of The Rings.
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
I do think there's a need for a logo, and maybe a separate website, someone mentioned a Wordpress blog? What we can do to increase awareness is to promote the 'fellowship' (or whatever it ends up getting called).
An iPhone/iPad app (I love how people are already contemplating developing for the iPad ) for the 'fellowship' would have to be very well designed and captivate the users. An app that just lists apps made by other people would be boring, even I wouldn't download it for free!
Looks like a big project, here's my idea:
- Join forces with Indie App Alliance, cause he's serious about building the site.
- The indie members contribute to the iPhone app development in the form collaborative development (we are the iPhone devs).
We just need a hosting for this, and probably a good project management system like github or codaset.
Whether to open source or not is not the primary concern, as long as everyone could contribute.
We could also use this collaboratively developed app as a way to share our knowledge about iPad development.
Now that's the easy part, the hard part is:
- How do we design the app, so the publicity to everyone is fair?
- How do we review which apps deserved to be there?
- How do we explain to the App Review Team, what this app is for? (Pandora Box is clear, because they're showing the fluctuation of prices of iPhone apps).
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
I agree with the idea that all of us work on the iPhone app and host our work on github. The source code itself should be viewed by members of the 'fellowship' only.
If you're serious about web hosting, iPage is a great host (I use it!) and is pretty cheap. Otherwise you can use something free (webs.com or Wordpress).
The design of the entire app itself is something that will be difficult, and everyone should have a say in it. I personally don't like using a tabBar app (that's why I'm ditching it in mSwears when the opportunity arises).
The ultimate question is: Who's going to submit the app to Apple? I guess rocotilos would, since he started the 'fellowship', but any one of us could.
One thing that we all agree on is that the app would be free for download?
I agree with the idea that all of us work on the iPhone app and host our work on github. The source code itself should be viewed by members of the 'fellowship' only.
If you're serious about web hosting, iPage is a great host (I use it!) and is pretty cheap. Otherwise you can use something free (webs.com or Wordpress).
The design of the entire app itself is something that will be difficult, and everyone should have a say in it. I personally don't like using a tabBar app (that's why I'm ditching it in mSwears when the opportunity arises).
The ultimate question is: Who's going to submit the app to Apple? I guess rocotilos would, since he started the 'fellowship', but any one of us could.
One thing that we all agree on is that the app would be free for download?
github private account is expensive and the collaborators are limited. Codaset is something that we may be able to afford. Codaset has more features than github.
I wasn't talking about web hosting but the source code hosting, which is Codaset, the Indie Apps Alliance already host the web. Unless if we don't want to join him. I suggest we should, because the name of the site is good enough.
Yes, the app would be free . So anyone will download it without hesitation.
I would advise that this should be a group account not rocotilos account. If he wants to maintain it, fine, that's great. But it shouldn't be specific to any member.
The account and the company name should represent the alliance.
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
Last edited by mnemonic_fx; 01-30-2010 at 07:50 PM.
I wasn't talking about web hosting but the source code hosting
Oops, my mistake!
I actually had no idea that github (or any code hosting) cost money. I'm sure that if we looked, we could find a free alternative, because I'm in no position at the moment to pull out my wallet and purchase code hosting packages.
Is there any way to contact the creator of the Indie App Alliance, because they haven't actually set up anything, unlike our 'fellowship'. We could host our website on his domain, or something like that.
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We could also use this collaboratively developed app as a way to share our knowledge about iPad development.
I haven't actually seen any of the iPad documentation, nor have I downloaded the 3.2 beta SDK. It's a pain to install it onto all the computers in my office, but I'll get around to it.
The problem with setting up another Apple Dev Account it that it's another USD$99, plus all the company paperwork linked with setting it up.
I actually had no idea that github (or any code hosting) cost money. I'm sure that if we looked, we could find a free alternative, because I'm in no position at the moment to pull out my wallet and purchase code hosting packages.
A private repository costs a monthly fee, always. For open source it's free.
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Oops, my mistake!
Is there any way to contact the creator of the Indie App Alliance, because they haven't actually set up anything, unlike our 'fellowship'. We could host our website on his domain, or something like that.
Well, twitter account. I'm sure he has an email somewhere.
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Oops, my mistake!
The problem with setting up another Apple Dev Account it that it's another USD$99, plus all the company paperwork linked with setting it up.
No need to settle the paid contract, it's just for free app and it could be an individual account. Yes that's totally suck the $99 for a non-profit cause.
Writing code is not only about writing instructions to a machine / computer, but also about writing something that could be read, understood, and maintained by others. That's why, I like Cocoa.
) for the 'fellowship' would have to be very well designed and captivate the users. An app that just lists apps made by other people would be boring, even I wouldn't download it for free!
the $99 for a non-profit cause.
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