Hello to all. I am new to this forum, but will probably have to spend considerable time here from now on to learn as much as possible.
I am not typically an Apple guy. Hey! Who thru that?
But I am now required to get used to, and start using Apple products, and I am pretty keen on the idea now. We run a few websites, and have recently had some success with mobile apps that are associated with these sites. Our first entry was with the Android platform, which now because of their success, need to be offered to iProducts as well.
These apps are being developed by freelancers, and we need a way to test them on actual devices.
My question is, can I pick up a few used iPhone models to do the testing of these apps without getting them hooked up to a network? I want to just use them to test the development progress of the programmer by connecting to WiFi. I know we could do this with iPod touch, but we need the GPS and other functions too.
GPS is actually Assisted GPS which uses the carrier network to help determine location so my guess is you can't. What you can do is get an unlocked device and use a prepaid (no contract) SIM card. Paired with a used device that will be your simplest/cheapest option.
When I upgraded to an iPhone 4S, I ran a Star Watching app on my old iPhone4 that used GPS to figure out what stars are in the sky seemed to run OK. I suspect it's a little slower without the cell towers to help, but not by much. So GPS seems to work without cellular service.
That's interesting. I thought the WiFi only iPad didn't have GPS because of the 'aGPS' issue and needing 3G/carrier access.
I think it's more of a feature bundling issue.
If you don't have a cell-based data network, the only place you can pull down map data is when you are connected to a WiFi network. A GPS that can't display maps is not very useful, so I'm guessing Apple decided not to include it since it wouldn't justify the added cost. I wouldn't want to pay for GPS in a device that didn't either store a full set of maps locally or have an "always on" internet connection.
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OK, Thanks for the info, but I want to make sure I have this right.
If I understand correctly, the iPod Touch does not have any locating mechanism, either network based or true GPS. And that was the original reason that I decided the iPod Touch would not work for my purposes.
Now an iPhone without a network connection should still be capable of connecting to WiFi, right? So if it has a true GPS, assisted or not, it should be able to acquire its location based on its GPS alone.
So my question now is, does the iPhone have to be an unlocked phone in order to access the WiFi, or can any iPhone connect to WiFi, even one without a SIM that is not connected to any network?
Hello to all. I am new to this forum, but will probably have to spend considerable time here from now on to learn as much as possible.
I am not typically an Apple guy. Hey! Who thru that?
But I am now required to get used to, and start using Apple products, and I am pretty keen on the idea now. We run a few websites, and have recently had some success with mobile apps that are associated with these sites. Our first entry was with the Android platform, which now because of their success, need to be offered to iProducts as well.
These apps are being developed by freelancers, and we need a way to test them on actual devices.
My question is, can I pick up a few used iPhone models to do the testing of these apps without getting them hooked up to a network? I want to just use them to test the development progress of the programmer by connecting to WiFi. I know we could do this with iPod touch, but we need the GPS and other functions too.
Thanks for any advice.
Any iPhone needs a sim card to function even if the card is not functional on a network. You can't activate it without the sim. I have an iPhone 3GS (it can run ios5) with a pay as you go sim card in it so I just put credit on it as required.
Any iPhone needs a sim card to function even if the card is not functional on a network. You can't activate it without the sim. I have an iPhone 3GS (it can run ios5) with a pay as you go sim card in it so I just put credit on it as required.
That's not true. You need a SIM to activate the phone, but once it's activated, you can take it out and the phone still functions, basically as an iPod touch.
In response to another poster's comments about location services, iPod touches will use WiFi information to approximate your location. I've walked up our street with my kid's iPod touch, and my location jumped from lot to lot as I walked (at least as long as the cached map data lasted.) Interestingly, it was able to calculate my location even though ALL the WiFi locations were encrypted. As long as they were discoverable, the location manager was able to use them to find my location.
I found it fascinating that the maps app knew about the location of my neighbors personal WiFi base stations. That implies a HUGE database of WiFi location information, on a house-by-house level. On one level it's very cool, and on a big-brother level it's a little scary.
Check out this password generator app that shows various techniques including using a data container singleton object to share data between objects in your project.
Hello to all. I am new to this forum, but will probably have to spend considerable time here from now on to learn as much as possible.
I am not typically an Apple guy. Hey! Who thru that?
But I am now required to get used to, and start using Apple products, and I am pretty keen on the idea now. We run a few websites, and have recently had some success with mobile apps that are associated with these sites. Our first entry was with the Android platform, which now because of their success, need to be offered to iProducts as well.
These apps are being developed by freelancers, and we need a way to test them on actual devices.
My question is, can I pick up a few used iPhone models to do the testing of these apps without getting them hooked up to a network? I want to just use them to test the development progress of the programmer by connecting to WiFi. I know we could do this with iPod touch, but we need the GPS and other functions too.
Thanks for any advice.
I tried my iphone 4S out in the car yesterday with a sim in it with no credit on it. I could not use the built in maps app to navigate so it looks like you need credit on it to work properly.
I tried my iphone 4S out in the car yesterday with a sim in it with no credit on it. I could not use the built in maps app to navigate so it looks like you need credit on it to work properly.
As I said, without a valid SIM, it acts like an iPod touch. No 3G or Edge network, but WiFi still works fine, and all apps that don't use a network connection are unaffected.
Check out this password generator app that shows various techniques including using a data container singleton object to share data between objects in your project.
Will an iPhone with no network connection work?
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