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Old 08-21-2011, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so none of you have ever seen me...hopefully that'll change though.

I'm getting my first Mac in a few days, and I know c and c++ but I don't know where to begin learning how to make apps. I've made a hello world app using adobe flash but gotten stuck on using actionscript and flash.

Now what should i do for the coming week? Stick it out with flash, learn a bit or run through an object c tutorial?

Please don't link me to getting started pages. I've gotten lost reading blog after blog and I just want to know where to start and I want a specific answer.
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Flash and Actionscript is a great way to learn the logic behind programming which is basically standard for almost all codes (including xcode - iphone)
However, the iPhone doesn't accept flash...
You can stick with flash for now to learn great coding logic.
But sooner or later I would switch over to objective-c so you can start actually making iphone-compatible apps.
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Please don't link me to getting started pages. I've gotten lost reading blog after blog and I just want to know where to start and I want a specific answer.
I suggest you buy a book. It'd be more concise and something you can follow until you get a hang of things.
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Hi there! I also came from learning C++ in my first year as a Computer Science major to Objective-C. I had to learn Objective-C on my own just recently as I thought about what I wanted to make for my first app.

Even though you mentioned you don't want to utilize the getting started pages, I thought that learning from various tutorials on YouTube really helped me get a taste of what Objective-C is like and thus helped me adapt to the basic concepts and such.
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Hi there! I also came from learning C++ in my first year as a Computer Science major to Objective-C. I had to learn Objective-C on my own just recently as I thought about what I wanted to make for my first app.

Even though you mentioned you don't want to utilize the getting started pages, I thought that learning from various tutorials on YouTube really helped me get a taste of what Objective-C is like and thus helped me adapt to the basic concepts and such.
So when you develop apps for the iphone, is it more of a gui drag and drop process or do most people use object C? I'm thinking I probably do need a book, but I don't know whether to get a book on object C or to get a book on iphone sdk.
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Why not spend 10 minutes searching this forum? This question has been asked a gazillion times with great answers. It would be a lot better than waiting days for 4 or 5 answers...........

However, if I were you I'd watch some YouTube vids, Lynda.com and then just get started. I have all the books (i do mean all) and they all went petty much over my head. I got through the dummies one but to be honest, it was making my first app which taught me. I freely admit though I'm on the first rung of the ladder still, and maybe now is the best/right time to read a book on the subject.

Lynda.com was good.

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Why not spend 10 minutes searching this forum? This question has been asked a gazillion times with great answers. It would be a lot better than waiting days for 4 or 5 answers...........

However, if I were you I'd watch some YouTube vids, Lynda.com and then just get started. I have all the books (i do mean all) and they all went petty much over my head. I got through the dummies one but to be honest, it was making my first app which taught me. I freely admit though I'm on the first rung of the ladder still, and maybe now is the best/right time to read a book on the subject.

Lynda.com was good.
I have made my first app. It was in Flash since I don't have a mac yet and my laptop doesn't support hardware virtualization.

I've always held off on Lynda because I felt their tutorials weren't as good as the ones provided for free online, but for something as specific as app development perhaps I'll take a look.


I don't want to seem unmotivated, but perhaps you could link me to a beginner's introduction thread you think is helpful.


Some further details about me: besides two years in computer engineering learning C and C++, I also work as a web designer. I'm a summer student. Perhaps I should focus on web apps? What do you think?

I have a lot of free time so I figured now would be as good a time as any to get started.

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If you want a book, I would recommend Beginning iPhone 4 Development: Exploring the SDK by Apress. That is the book that I used, and when I started (two years ago) I was in 9th grade, with just 1 year of Java programming experience. So it is a great book for beginners.
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If you want a book, I would recommend Beginning iPhone 4 Development: Exploring the SDK by Apress. That is the book that I used, and when I started (two years ago) I was in 9th grade, with just 1 year of Java programming experience. So it is a great book for beginners.
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So many young people getting into programming at such a young age. You make a college student like me feel like an obsolete old geezer! I'm sick and tired of being taught by middle school students on youtube

Anyways, I've already started one book, and I don't know if I will take you up on your suggestion.
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CartoonSmart.com has the absolute best videos in my opinion for learning any language.. I learned Actionscript 2.0 at age 10 (about 7 years ago!) from them, reached a professional level a few years later. And by the time they started teaching iphone tutorials I already knew most of the stuff but I know it would of helped when I first started... I felt your pain with blogs haha I learned by messing around with other peoples code to see what did what but my biggest struggle was connectors in xib files.. They aren't hard, I just wasn't accustomed to them and didn't even find out about them for weeks because every blog has people declaring their IBOutlets with code instead of editing them in the xib file...

but anyways, cartoonsmart.com... far best IMO, and they are videos so no reading is required
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