Because there are alot of copyright IP stealing going on itunes.. Can the SOPA BILL block the itunes app domain as well because if that bill gets passed then no one can dl apps in US and since US have lots of downloads then i will lose alot of money... can they do that? people even think it can force sites like facebook and youtube to get shut down or something..
I'd actually never thought about SOPA's effect on the gaming industry, that's just plain scary!
Its not the downloading of apps per se' that the proposed SOPA Bill would prevent. It could be the sale of apps from small startups and indie games studios that gets prevented by the larger companies and mega-game studios. But you do raise a good point.
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1. it is made against UNAUTHORIZED streaming of copyrighted materials (warez)
2. they can't just shut down the Appstore because some teenagers can't hold themselves back. In the worst case Apple will have to increase the monitoring of the apps, but I think it doesn't change anything. Copyright holders still have to defend their copyrights themselves and even against warez sites they have to act themselves. You can't just disallow something based on assumptions that there might be copyright issues arising.
It probably will be easier to go after infringers, but that doesn't mean, they will shut down websites based on possibilities. They could shut down the whole internet then, because every website is a potential platform for spreading copyrighted material.
What about companies, who produce similar things? Their websites get shut down immediatelly? I don't think so.
3. Think about what impact would it make to the economy.
4. Who says that only EA and Chillingo is allowed to have copyrights? They can't shut down indie devs, just because they are not a multimillion dollar company.
I wouldn't think about it too much. On the Appstore nothing will change I am 100% sure.
I just ask myself, what they have written into that document about forign copyright holders against US infringers :-P
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Unfortunately, Universal Music (UMG), the world's largest music company didn't agree and in Sept 2007 they sued Veoh in federal court claiming that we are infringing on their copyrights. Even though we had worked with many big media companies in protecting their copyrights, following the provisions of the DMCA, UMG scoffed at their responsibilities to notify us of infringement and refused to send us a single DMCA take down notice. They believed that the DMCA didn't apply. They were not interested in making sure their content was taken down, but rather that Veoh was taken down!
Veoh did everything they could to stay within the bounds allowed by the DMCA, but UMG sued them anyways and refused to let up. With SOPA and PIPA, UMG wouldn't need to sue anymore, they could just point a finger and have a site shut down- No subpoena, no lawsuit, no take-down notice, the site would just be inaccessible. I don't understand how people think Groups like UMG and MPAA and the RIAA won't take advantage of the power that these bills would grant them.
As an employee of a start-up game and animation studio, and an employee of a larger tech company, I'm fearful of the effect that this will have on small business!
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Because there are alot of copyright IP stealing going on itunes.. Can the SOPA BILL block the itunes app domain as well because if that bill gets passed then no one can dl apps in US and since US have lots of downloads then i will lose alot of money... can they do that? people even think it can force sites like facebook and youtube to get shut down or something..
I hate SOPA. I'm thinking about joining the blackout, even if it is a little late...
SOPA and PIPA would be toxic to the entire economy of the internet.
I know the developers here aren't to concerned but they should really do their research and see just how terrible these bills are. It's not just the close minded question of "Will it affect our apps?" How many of us plan or have websites of our own that correlate to our apps? Have forums for people to discuss your apps/games? Those sites would be at risk. Anywhere people can post a simple comment is at risk.
One thing that isn't even talked about enough is someone could specifically target your site to be taken down. Have some competition or someone who doesn't like you? They can sign up to your site, post a link to copyrighted material, then report your site. Then your site is taken down without notice.
This is just the molecule on the tip of the iceberg. The sheer amount of problems this bill would create is far more then the good it achieves by taking down a few pirate sites. It's extreme internet censorship.
There was an amazing tech video with someone explaining it more in depth. If I find the video later I will post it, but for now I will just post this link.
If it is so unenforceable, how do countries like China, Syria and others do it? I suggest you do some reading into the implications of these bills before you go and say they can't pass.
The internet threatens our longstanding control of information and communications, and that is simply unacceptable. Therefore, it is essential to curb the utility of the internet for everyone else.
Why are so many MAJOR internet companies, Organizations, Innovators, Lawyers, businessmen, Bloggers, and citizens opposed to SOPA if it isn't a threat?
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China also doesn't take down sites. They block them for chinese people to see. Big difference.
Blocking a website won't get rid of the copyright infringement, it just makes it invisible.
It is a stupid law made by stupid people and maybe enforcable within the US, but surely not outside. The US is still not so powerful and important how they would like to be.
I have surely no fears about this as I had no fear about that stupid scambag that tried to get paid for the upgrade buttons.
At latest when the economy collapses (or at least takes a major hit) because big IT companies move their business from the US, then it will be gone.
Because there are alot of copyright IP stealing going on itunes.. Can the SOPA BILL block the itunes app domain as well because if that bill gets passed then no one can dl apps in US and since US have lots of downloads then i will lose alot of money... can they do that? people even think it can force sites like facebook and youtube to get shut down or something..
From what I grasped you made some celebs apps and you are/were always warned about how borderline legal your stuff was.
I've 2 points to raise:
1) I condem that business model, so in that respect I approve fighting against cheap pirates wanting to go away stealing somebody's else work.
2) I oppose copyright and IP muscle battles, clearly the winner is (99%) always who's got more money to spend in lawsuits. That is wrong it will always be wrong and if SOPA makes that even easier, that is super wrong.
Having said that I still believe there's a good chunk of people opposing just because they want to get away with murder (those are the people I hate deeply), and they want to save their asses backing the likes of wikipedia and co who oppose the bill for real ethical genuine reasons.
On the same level I hate when the usual shittie old style corps are backing this bill, just to take advantage themselves.
So there are a lot of shade of grays in this debate but please if you have your bieber app and want to get away with that please spare us the first amendment BS.
PS: I agree with promo on this one, that's a bit scary
I've never had celeb apps. Maybe it was more of a soundboard app for a game. I think I've grown alot since then and have made an app that actually generates decent income (by my standards) that im able not needing to goto work anymore. Yes I admit to making bad descicion on my early apps but i think I've learned alot (My first 2 apps been taken down) so i my buisness modal dont involve spamming the store with gaming,celeb crap... but hey im still learning cuz i know i got alot to learn (especially memory management that **** is hell).
Anyways in the worst case scenario, a company could complain and BOOM the whole app store could get taken down because of that one app. I know it probably wont happen but this is what im seeing all on the media/web people are claiming.
....who oppose the bill for real ethical genuine reasons....
Nobody opposes the bill for "real" "ethical" "genuine" reasons. It's all about money. If bill passes then Google would have to spend a lot more resources policing their indexed sites databases. There is a lot of copyrighted material being uploaded in wikipedia all the time. People copy-paste the whole web-sites as "articles". SOPA would cost wikipedia resources to police the articles. Microsoft is against it for the same reasons: bing.
News companies, movie industry, RIAA are for it because they will make more money. EVERYBODY uses pirated stuff, but if getting pirated stuff becomes harder, then people start buying stuff. This is how it works.
SOPA is an outrageous bill, but this is how US politics works. The sponsors will introduce some outrageous bill to see the reaction. Then they will start bargaining and removing the worst provisions (that weren't meant to pass anyway). Eventually they will pass some watered down bill and will get what they want. They did the same with DMCA. That same DMCA helped Apple to beat the cr@p out of PsyStar.
We are all for "freedom of Internet" when we need to download Adobe Illustrator from piratebay, but we get pi$$ed when we see our .ipa-s cracked all over internet.. Aren't we
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The government taking down megauploads only reinforces the fact that laws and a proper system are already in place to take down offending websites. This actually shows that SOPA and PIPA aren't even needed.
Anyone who does even a bit of research knows that it was mostly big Hollywood companies that paid congressmen loads of money to have the bill created and passed.
I heard the founders of Hollywood moved there because there was no law of copyright and ip there.. How money and power can change humans
Copyright is ingrained in US Constitution. The copyright laws were since day 1.
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
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The government taking down megauploads only reinforces the fact that laws and a proper system are already in place to take down offending websites. This actually shows that SOPA and PIPA aren't even needed. ...
I think there is a lot more to megauploads than just hosting a file sharing web-site. If the Chinese guy with German citizenship gets arrested in New Zealand by US request it means he's done something really naughty. They charged him with racketeering, money laundering. He had some prior felony conviction.
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