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Old 08-19-2011, 05:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have made an Youtube Downloader App, it was rejected because of the Terms of Service.

But why can I see other apps like this one : MediaBurner - Tube Video Downloader for iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad on the iTunes App Store that were not rejected and they can download videos on the app too.

Does somebody know why?

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Old 08-19-2011, 06:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, what reason did Apple give for the rejection?
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Well, what reason did Apple give for the rejection?
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Here's what they said to me :

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Reasons for Rejection:
22.4: Apps that enable illegal file sharing will be rejected

22.4

We found that your app allows users to download YouTube content, which is not in compliance with the YouTube Terms of Service.

"...You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download" or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content."

We encourage you to review your app concept and evaluate whether you can incorporate different features that comply with YouTube’s terms of service.

To appeal this review, please submit a request to the App Review Board
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Seems pretty straightforward, they even quoted the ToS that you need to comply with. The other app must do it in a way that complies with YouTube ToS, or they have written permission from Youtube, or they slipped through the cracks. None of which concerns your app. Pointing the finger at other apps never works because Apple's guidelines are always changing but they don't necessarily retroactively enforce them.
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Seems pretty straightforward, they even quoted the ToS that you need to comply with. The other app must do it in a way that complies with YouTube ToS, or they have written permission from Youtube, or they slipped through the cracks. None of which concerns your app. Pointing the finger at other apps never works because Apple's guidelines are always changing but they don't necessarily retroactively enforce them.
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Yes many apps of people rejected by apple cause of terms and condition, i think you have to follow that terms and condition thing of youtube. cause some people don't want that someone download there videos and convert them.like you see we get error when we try to convert some videos or try to download some videos on pc through any converter.
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That Media Burn app is in violation of that same terms of service section. You should appeal the decision and cite that App. Have you done that yet? Any update on this?
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That Media Burn app is in violation of that same terms of service section. You should appeal the decision and cite that App. Have you done that yet? Any update on this?
Haven't you got it the wrong way round?

So somebody else is doing something illegal and got away with that -> so you should be entitled to do the same?

Nice logic...

Am I the only one getting really tired of this app-developers community that doesn't seem to have any ethical values whatsoever? :/
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Haven't you got it the wrong way round?

So somebody else is doing something illegal and got away with that -> so you should be entitled to do the same?

Nice logic...

Am I the only one getting really tired of this app-developers community that doesn't seem to have any ethical values whatsoever? :/
As an app developer you should be concerned about other developers being able to skirt rules. There are a lot of innovative ideas my company would like to implement but before we spend the large sums of money required to develop it, we would like to know what Apple's stance is. Lots of people who worked on jail broken apps were recruited by Apple and now work for them. The ethics of downloading a YouTube video to an app for viewing offline, when the same content can be viewed with an Internet connection an infinite number of times is a seperate discussion. But when my company wants to push the envelope and create great apps that people want, but we are prevented from doing so because of Apple's rules, and another developer beats us to it, because they "slipped through," that's a problem. When they create the ecosystem and enforce the rules involved, they can't be choosy about when or if to enforce them.
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...and another developer beats us to it, because they "slipped through," that's a problem. When they create the ecosystem and enforce the rules involved, they can't be choosy about when or if to enforce them.
I agree with you, I can only give Apple 1 excuse for that, it's hard retro-actively enforce a new rule on such a substantial set of apps.
Apart from that, it isn't fair, but then again, you are always at their mercy :/ That's the only rule of the game.
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Yep, I also got rejected a youtube downloader app... well...
there are other apps like foxtube
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Haven't you got it the wrong way round?

So somebody else is doing something illegal and got away with that -> so you should be entitled to do the same?

Nice logic...

Am I the only one getting really tired of this app-developers community that doesn't seem to have any ethical values whatsoever? :/
I agree that developers shouldn't expect to be able to point to another app that got away with something and try to justify why their app should also be approved.

Now if you as a developer just wanted to point out that some app is breaking the rules or against some TOS, then that is one thing. But trying to say you should also be able to do something illegal just because someone else got away with it is retarded. That's like if you get busted for shop lifting and you claim that you shouldn't be punished because your friend shop lifts all the time without being busted. LOL
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