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Old 11-09-2011, 04:58 AM   #51 (permalink)
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And even if they as said, I don't have the benefit of legal education that the whole Jiffy family has, it's just shady practices which Elance should not accept.

No information was communicated regarding price of job for source code and without it. There is simply no way to compare and analyze. They would definitely be not getting my job if I knew this was the case.

Then after the app is finished, they say it is not provided and will require a price that is equivalent to approx 95% of the cost of the app. Now, they use such arrogant tone to bully newbies.

Elance has yet to decide, and they are already saying Elance's terms will not apply.
Hey Summer, Please keep me posted on how this turns out. I'm just exploring the idea of getting an app developed and would like to know the worst case scenario and it seems like you've had one of many possibilities.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:02 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I would advise everyone to avoid Jiffy Software and the members of their team:

AVOID AJ Steeves, Jiffy Software, Jiffy Inc - elance contractor
AVOID Fred Hopkins, Jiffy Software, Jiffy Inc - elance contractor
AVOID Abhishek Sood CSSoftsolutions - elance contractor
AVOID Debra Anderson, Jiffy Software, Jiffy Inc - elance contractor

The experience I got from them has been feelings of "I've been scammed". I was not an appreciated customer, I was just someone to get money from.

First red flag - they demand 30% upfront to start the project. Don't ever pay for something without seeing something that you are happy with. Money will be lost!
Second red flag - they demand another 20% when graphics are made
* They outsource an image maker (you can do this)
- you've lost 50% of you project's value - and no programming has been done.
Third red flag - another 30% on beta release
* They outsource to very inexpensive developers on elance and ODesk - I've seen their profiles and they charge between $5-$15/hour (you could have done this too, but you didn't) *You lost 80% of your project's value now

20% on "happiness" of your project being completed - you won't get here, your project will suck just like mine and the countless people before us. Most people get fed up and dispute the project - nothing gets returned to you that you released! YOU WILL LOSE MONEY, HAVE A BAD EXPERIENCE, NOT HAVE A FINISHED PROJECT.

Fourth red flag - can you hire someone from elance to create multiple email accounts, register on facebook, and like your page? Yes you can. Think about it.

If you have a project with Jiffy Software - don't let AJ Steeves bully you around then give you sweet promising words, then bully you some more. DISPUTE it TODAY!
AVOID JIFFY SOFTWARE, your project will thank you later - there are many many freelancing websites with good developers.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - the actual people's names are here so you don't get spoofed when Jiffy Software changes there name....I hate feeling SCAMMED!

Why would you include the developer's name when you've made it clear that the company outsources? The developer is just being told what to do(in my opinion)
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Ok, so did he get the source code or not ???

Kinda like reading all but the last chapter of a book!

I checked out the Jiffy site, looks like the have some big name apps there, Starbucks, netflix... I would have thought netflix would develop inhouse.
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