Why Apple’s New Ban Against Sexy Apps Is Scary

inwhatworld · 02-19-2010, 03:55 PM

This says it all:
Why Apple’s New Ban Against Sexy Apps Is Scary

What's next? Books, movies with *****, magazines?

**Kalimba** · 02-19-2010, 05:02 PM

Jeez, give it a rest. Apple's latest move upsets you -- we get it already.

zackattack · 02-19-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalimba

Jeez, give it a rest. Apple's latest move upsets you -- we get it already.

... somebody needs a hug and an ice cream ...

Julie · 02-19-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalimba

Jeez, give it a rest. Apple's latest move upsets you -- we get it already.

I think he is more then upset. He is mad as hell.

. His beloved boob app was removed.

zackattack · 02-19-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

I think he is more then upset. He is mad as hell. His beloved boob app was removed.

He's mad as hell and he doesnt have to take ... wait this is Apple we're talking about... yup he's gonna take it and he's gonna like it.

eyefone · 02-19-2010, 05:40 PM

It is now much much much less attractive to develop for this platform.

Not because I want to litter the app store with naked women, but because if apple one day decide to impose their version of morality on anything I have written all that investment is down the drain. It will be sudden and without warning and contrary to any previous guidance.

It's a cool platform and I like writing for it but if my return on investment is at this high a risk it's just not worth investing in it.

I will never invest a lot of time and effort into an app now. Assuming it makes it through the archaic review process they could withdraw it at any time.

I now plan 'skin-able' spam apps. I won't go as far as releasing more than one on any given day and spam the store, but I won't be investing much effort into anything other than a core engine that can be re-wrapped in order to spread the risk.

It's the only logical response to this platforms random censorship. I am also seriously looking into alternative mobile platforms for the first time.

Nice one apple.

zackattack · 02-19-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eyefone

It is now much much much less attractive to develop for this platform.

Not because I want to litter the app store with naked women, but because if apple one day decide to impose their version of morality on anything I have written all that investment is down the drain. It will be sudden and without warning and contrary to any previous guidance.

It's a cool platform and I like writing for it but if my return on investment is at this high a risk it's just not worth investing in it.

I will never invest a lot of time and effort into an app now. Assuming it makes it through the archaic review process they could withdraw it at any time.

I now plan 'skin-able' spam apps. I won't go as far as releasing more than one on any given day and spam the store, but I won't be investing much effort into anything other than a core engine that can be re-wrapped in order to spread the risk.

It's the only logical response to this platforms random censorship. I am also seriously looking into alternative mobile platforms for the first time.

Nice one apple.

And thus opens the Spam Gates of 2010! Next Stop 1,000,000 apps on the store proudly announced by Steve Jobs himself!

TunaNugget · 02-19-2010, 05:46 PM

I'm seriously worried now about Apple's push to enter the book market. I would find it completely unacceptable to have Apple get to decide which books to ban.

Julie · 02-19-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zackattack

And thus opens the Spam Gates of 2010! Next Stop 1,000,000 apps on the store proudly announced by Steve Jobs himself!

I am a happy person when all BOOB stuff banned. Cmon guys time to grow up. It is enough to look only at your wife and never ever look at other stuff.

TunaNugget · 02-19-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

I am a happy person when all BOOB stuff banned. Cmon guys time to grow up. It is enough to look only at your wife and never ever look at other stuff.

Ahahahaha. Good luck with that.

ethanwa · 02-19-2010, 06:06 PM

EVERYONE -

Apple is NOT the United States of America, even though they are located there. They DON'T have to give you "free speech" or whatever rights you are preaching.

They can, BY LAW, add and remove any app from the app store that they wish. It's not "scary", it's business. EVERY company in the USA does it. They can pick and choose who they let into their restaurants, their buildings, who they do business with, etc. The can judge you based on your credit score, what you buy, and what you wear.

A good example: Walmart doesn't let most explicit CD music albums on their shelves, so musicians create two version of the music, one being more family-friendly just for Walmart. And guess what? People still shop at Walmart regardless! And guess what? Musicians still edit the music for Walmart! And guess what? Walmart makes craploads of money!

It's business. Apple can do WHATEVER THEY WANT. Deal with it. Adjust your business model for it.

Ethan

georgeburns · 02-19-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by inwhatworld

This says it all:
Why Apple’s New Ban Against Sexy Apps Is Scary

What's next? Books, movies with *****, magazines?

I think its a good move.... How is Sexy Jiggly ***** of Asia a utility?

Really.

I do actually think they should just make a category for it all. Have a restricted access **** section. Nothing wrong with that.

eyefone · 02-19-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

I am a happy person when all BOOB stuff banned. Cmon guys time to grow up. It is enough to look only at your wife and never ever look at other stuff.

This isn't about *****, it's about apple demonstrating they are fine with changing the rules at any time losing people the money they have invested in this platform.

Ive lost nothing here, but I am now aware how prepared they are to snub out any application I have invested time, effort and money in without warning or apparent thought.

Their guidance/rules mean nothing now other than a rough indication of the likelyhood of your app making it through the review process. It could change at any time in the future.

So it's less logical now to invest much in this platform.

Ironically I expect this action to lower the quality of the independent apps on the store.

Now where did I put that link to the android sdk...

eyefone · 02-19-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ethanwa

Deal with it. Adjust your business model for it.

Ethan

Precisely. Develop for another platform if you want to do something that takes longer than a couple of weeks. Make a 'skin-able' engine for the app store and spam it once a week.

The new iphone business plan. Feel free to copy it anyone.

Julie · 02-19-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TunaNugget

Ahahahaha. Good luck with that.

Do you know why TigerWood has an affair? Because he buy a BOOB app.

Lars · 02-19-2010, 10:04 PM

I will say there probably is more going on than the surface level stuff we are talking about in this thread. Sure, it's easy to think that Apple is all about some "morals" ~ and while to some degree I'm sure they have an image they want to maintain. But first and foremost they want to make money. Don't kid yourself if you think otherwise. So the question becomes this ~ 1) How much does the t&a apps bring in and 2) how much does it lose?

Yes, I actually think those apps cost apple profits. Just knowing that my wife gets annoyed when looking at new apps and she sees several apps in a row of that stuff (I think the last go around was sliding puzzles) she finds it offensive. She quits looking quickly which means lost sales.

We have no idea what the stats are behind the wall, but I'm guessing apple wasn't raking in enough money from the sale of these apps to either offset any lost image of itself or maybe lost sales from people like my wife. So maybe it wasn't a big decision to drop it.

What I think they should do is create an adult only section, that way it keeps the material out of other areas where it just doesn't make sense, and by default maybe doesn't appear in the recent released list, etc, unless you turn it on to show those apps.

Simple solution, but again, unless they are making enough money why even bother with that? Especially since you can google any image you want to look for ...

TunaNugget · 02-19-2010, 10:16 PM

Interesting. I was wondering the opposite: whether it's possible that the boob apps work as bait, and losing them will cost us some teenagers in the app store.

Tambourin · 02-20-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TunaNugget

Interesting. I was wondering the opposite: whether it's possible that the boob apps work as bait, and losing them will cost us some teenagers in the app store.

teenagers can only access the appstore if they get an iPod touch for christmas from their parents. Parents don't buy a device for their kids which offers plenty of p.orn.
Plus 50% of the customers are women, on which it has a negative effect as mentioned before.
I think p.orn doesn't sell that much. The VHS betamax p.orn story is not valid anymore nowadays in a time where you have sexual content in all media all the time.
Look at Nintendo. Their products are the cleanest imaginable. No p.orn, no violence, nothing. And still their software products are completely dominating the games top sales lists.
Sex and violence doesn't sell that much.