Inside info: Apple just shot itself! Us too!

[neonext]

Originally Posted by crabFish

But, if it's a good update - worthwile for your users to download - wouldn't the positive response from that perhaps lead to at least one of two things...

1. The would be telling everyone they know who has an iPhone about this great app that's getting better and better all the time?

2. You will build a user base that trust and rely on you and your apps?

Then again - your app might not benefit from a loyal and satisfied customer base? This I know nothing about...

Yes I would love to believe that is true, and I will hope so as I will have to be going down that road. From what I've seen though from working on the app store both at work and home though, I don't really think that for the vast majority of developers that it works like that. 95% of it is exposure, and this was usually the only way most developers would get it.

Having said that, I've got to stress again that I'm okay with the changes. I think it makes a better store overall

[alexy]

Originally Posted by MarkC

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The bottom line is that Apple DO provide visibility of your app - the first day version 1 is released.
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Actually, this I disagree with. I know myself and many others didn't benefit at ALL from any 'new release' list on your first app.

I (like many others), submitted their apps without changing the Availability date. Then being your first app, you get rejected.

So instead of 2 weeks, it turns to be 3 or 4. By this stage, your 'Release date' is a month old and you NEVER get the (usually) well deserved promotion a new app needs.

The only way I benefit from my boring business app (Partae) is Keywords, and those searching for something in particular market/niche.
That along with my AdWords and Marketing.

The bottom line for me is, if I submit a new app or update, and it:
- my new app now gets promoted without dilution
- my app looks recent since my Post date gets updated automatically on updated binaries

in the new section (which it now appears to do), I'm reasonably happy.
My game, Deal or Not now shows my Post Date as my last update which previously shown my original submission date.

I DO agree that another filter is needed (and might come) in the App Store to filter on new updates (not just new apps)

[dre]

You know, guys... I have a gut feeling that Apple reversed it's decision. It's a gut feeling, I'm not to start any rumor, I don't have any info.. I just wanna share and let's see if I'm right...

I think Apple realized that:

1. Number of submittions didn't decrease, in contrary - increased. I've seen plenty of "remakes" of old apps already - and it was just a beginning. Submitting new application instead of an update is just some extra few copy-paste operations.

2. Visibility of the apps didn't increase (I was following some apps) - they moved to the 2nd 3rd pages very quickly after tsunami of brand "new" apps.

3. The other reasons we made in this forum.. Maybe Apple reads such forums and maybe thinks... good if it does.

I think (if I were Apple), they would just disregard "availability date" and place the app in "new releases" automatically upon update or new release. Which is what they suppose to be doing on the first place. That's why we now see bizarre "release dates"..

I'm just speculating, let's see if my intuition is right.

[Tambourin]

personally I think apple should let the reviewers take the decision if an update should appear in the new release list. So they could make it that updates with new features would appear in the list, while "bug corrections" and keyword changes should not appear.

[_sjc_]

Originally Posted by Tambourin

personally I think apple should let the reviewers take the decision if an update should appear in the new release list. So they could make it that updates with new features would appear in the list, while "bug corrections" and keyword changes should not appear.

I agree. Or, along the same lines, maybe they could give the "bug fix"/"new feature" choice to the programmer when they submit their app. If you choose "bug fix" you could be fast-tracked (say, 90% handled in under a week), but with no update bump, while for "new feature" you'd have to go through the standard 2+ week review process but at the end of it you would get moved back up the list.

[GregWI]

I'd be happy with a "Recently Updated" sorting ability since I do like to see which apps have been updated recently. Now it looks like I'll have to visit AppShopper for that.