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Old 07-09-2009, 12:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Still waiting for payments back to January for euro and GBP. Two emails, two web contact forms, and two phone calls to Apple over the last 35 days have all gone unanstered.

I'd personally give up everything Apple owes me to have five minutes alone in a locked room with Steve Jobs. That's about 4min50sec longer than I need to take care of this scumbag.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:20 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Still waiting for payments back to January for euro and GBP. Two emails, two web contact forms, and two phone calls to Apple over the last 35 days have all gone unanstered.

I'd personally give up everything Apple owes me to have five minutes alone in a locked room with Steve Jobs. That's about 4min50sec longer than I need to take care of this scumbag.
Wow, here watch out for the net police. Some people might take that as a threat of physical harm.
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Old 07-09-2009, 01:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Some of us gave up profitable careers to pursue iPhone development, confident enough in our technical and business skills to know we could be successful. What we've found is Apple's boot firmly on our throats since day one.

Some of us can't pay bills despite making plenty of money with our apps because Apple refuses to pay us or even to reply to any form of contact.

I'm praying every night that Microsoft actually releases a Windows Mobile 7 that's worth developing for. I'm disgusted that Apple's gotten so much of my money (development machines, software, iPhone, and iPod) and I hope to throw these things in the garbage once it's profitable enough to develop for other mobile devices.
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:00 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Regardless of everyone disappointments, if Windows Mobile 7 attract developers, because let's say there's no dreaded App Review process,

Then, the amount of competition in App Store will decrease, hence it will give more time for Apple to fix things, create a better review process, and nurture the existing developers already established in the iPhone OS platform.

Developers' migration to Windows Mobile 7, may not influence Apple that much, because the existing customers for iPhone apps are still there. These customers do not worry as much as developers.

Everything will balance itself out.

The best platform in the "eye of the consumers" will still wins, instead of the best platform in the "eye of the developers"
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:11 PM   #55 (permalink)
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You can develop for WM right now, and there are companies/developers who are doing quite well developing for WM6. Nothing prevent you from jumping ship to WM (or Android, or Blackberry, or Nokia).
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You can develop for WM right now, and there are companies/developers who are doing quite well developing for WM6. Nothing prevent you from jumping ship to WM (or Android, or Blackberry, or Nokia).
Windows Mobile in its current state is a POS operating system. Android & Nokia have nowhere near the user base, development tools, or top-tier gaming/graphics capable hardware. Blackberry is a business platform and doesn't appeal to the user base my graphics/gaming apps are targeted at.

Windows Mobile 7 (if it lives up to the MS propaganda), combined with the new Zune and top-tier phones that will run it, will generate a large enough user base to be worth switching for.

I've developed Windows applications for the last 14 years (last 9 with my own company) and while I've never been a big fan of MS, I'll take them any day of the week over what I've experienced with Apple in the last 12 months.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:50 PM   #57 (permalink)
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We are not discussing the merit of OS, are we?

Business decisions should be independent on what platform you like. I was just saying there is an ecosystem for Windows Mobile, despite all its problems, and WM phones have healthy sales to support many small companies.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:24 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Hate for this to be my first post here, but why don't you stop nagging on a forum (only read by developers in the same boat) and just take a lawyer? Pretty sure that'll be more efficient.
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Hate for this to be my first post here, but why don't you stop nagging on a forum (only read by developers in the same boat) and just take a lawyer? Pretty sure that'll be more efficient.
"Nagging"...Perhaps you need a dictionary.

These type threads serve to inform and document the abhorred treatment and non-support Apple provides iPhone developers.

"just take a lawyer"?...As you probably know, Apple certainly does, mounting any kind of serious lawsuit against them would easily cost 100's of thousands or more likely millions of dollars. If you've got that kind of money available then please, start the ball rolling.

The only way a lawsuit will happen is if some adventurous law firm sees a way to make millions on a class action filing...I'm not aware of anyone stepping forward.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:08 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I don't know about developers, but I've read several stories in the past about unsatisfied customers writing to sjobs@apple.com with a short description of their problem, and within days their problems are solved.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:08 AM   #61 (permalink)
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That's really his email ? I can't imagine how many spam he gets.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:51 PM   #62 (permalink)
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That's really his email ? I can't imagine how many spam he gets.
yes its well known that emailing "steve" sometimes gets things done - however for every person that has a positive experience, we don't know how many other's don't.
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:46 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Finally got a response from Apple as to why I'm missing many international payments dating back as far as Feb.

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Hello,

We have been working with WaMu for a few months now and still have not been able to successfully pay all of their customers. Payments will work one month but fail the next. We are working towards a resolution but if you would like to ensure timely payments we suggest getting an account at Bank of America, Wells Fargo, HSBC, JP Morgan Chase, Citibank, etcetera.

Feel free to contact us if you have any further questions.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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It is ironic that they suggest chase as chase and wamu are now one and the same.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:33 PM   #65 (permalink)
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"Nagging"...Perhaps you need a dictionary.

These type threads serve to inform and document the abhorred treatment and non-support Apple provides iPhone developers.

"just take a lawyer"?...As you probably know, Apple certainly does, mounting any kind of serious lawsuit against them would easily cost 100's of thousands or more likely millions of dollars. If you've got that kind of money available then please, start the ball rolling.

The only way a lawsuit will happen is if some adventurous law firm sees a way to make millions on a class action filing...I'm not aware of anyone stepping forward.
There's a big difference between starting a 'serious' lawsuit and making a claim on your money. Stating the 'abhorred treatment' over and over, but not acting on it sounds like nagging to me.

There's some information on claims in the UK here: Making a Claim

No matter what it says in your contract with Apple, there are laws to protect you from late payments. For example the 'late payment interest law' they have in most of europe: Late payment legislation and the BPPG Interest calculator. which basically states if a company is more then one month late with their payment, you are lawfully entitled to charge interest, which for 2009 is 8.5% in the UK.

I agree it's good to gather the experiences of Apple's payment system, but at some point you have to act on the way you're treated.
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Old 07-23-2009, 10:26 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Finally got a response from Apple as to why I'm missing many international payments dating back as far as Feb.
I received the same information today, after a couple weeks of them promising me tracking codes, and many months of them ignoring me completely. Of course, now they've gone silent again when I asked them to provide me with the means to change the banking info.
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I received the same information today, after a couple weeks of them promising me tracking codes, and many months of them ignoring me completely. Of course, now they've gone silent again when I asked them to provide me with the means to change the banking info.
Same exact experience here. I already have a BofA account and asked for the info they require so that I can make the switch ASAP. No word yet.
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Update...Got a response:

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I have attached a banking form for your convenience. Updated information will go into effect approximately ten (10) days after receipt, and we will send any pending payments via wire or electronic funds transfer during the next payment cycle. You will not be able to see the updated information in iTunes Connect, even though we have updated our financial systems.

There are three methods available for submitting updated information to Apple. If you submit via email, we will confirm receipt of your updates.
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I got the same thing. Emailed the form today. I guess I'll see if it worked in about a month.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:25 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Mark,Sign me up, If some one is going to class action suit against Apple.
I sent them 10 more inquire payment email to itspayment@apple.com but get nothing reply.

They owe my 09/2009 money but no any reasonable explain.
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