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Old 01-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi to everyone.
(it's one of the first post, so: hi!!!)

But i'm not to happy right now... so no happy faces...!

I'm sure i'm not the first one to have this problem, but I hope there is a way to solve it.

I found a cracked version of the application i deveoloped.


This is the application link: Givosoft - The software at ur fingers!
And this the cracked link: ibeep | Iphone IPA


They obviously say that the download is available only for "testing" and for "backup". Yea yeea yeaaaa...

I'm so upset, that if i find the IP of that server, i go there and burn it down!


Anyone knows if there is a way to go legally against this situations?
Or if I can do something about it?

and do you have an idea on how much is the percentage of cracked iPhones?

Thanks,

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Old 01-30-2009, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sorry, just discovered it's in the wrong section!
if an admin can, move it to the right place...
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The crackers are pretty bold -- they have a website listing cracked App Store apps and the cracker!

Lawyers will take ALL your money.

It is unlikely that anyone outside of Apple or AT&T knows the percentage of jailbroken phones but estimates ran as high as 25%...
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The crackers are pretty bold -- they have a website listing cracked App Store apps and the cracker!

Lawyers will take ALL your money.

It is unlikely that anyone outside of Apple or AT&T knows the percentage of jailbroken phones but estimates ran as high as 25%...
What is the website, I wan't to make sure my apps aren't listed there.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Your best bet is to have your app misbehave in subtle and frustrating ways if you detect a hack. Here's how to detect a hack: How to Thwart iPhone IPA Crackers: /* do something */ though you may want to read more posts on the blog (good info).

I suggest adding it to your next version if you're concerned about this.
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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cracked version works great!
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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cracked version works great!
LOL rubbing it in ain't you.

givosoft, if it's any comfort to you, the people that download the cracked app weren't likely to buy it anyway. Not sure if it's suggested before but just go ahead and email all the file hosted sites. Most of them will comply.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Has anyone employed the code for "Thwarting" the users of cracked apps. It looks promising. I might try it and start capturing non-purchased device ids.
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I haven't personally tried it since I haven't found any sign that my app's been cracked yet. (Planner. If anyone happens to see it, PM me)

I personally don't see any reason for subtle nuances, though in my case I could probably have fun with 'loosing' assignments or entire classes. This is my idea thus far, though. Of course, I'm not one for being subtle if they're going to pirate.

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-(void)applicationWillFinishLaunching
if (detectCrackHere == TRUE)
{
//Display alert view
//"Don't pirate apps"
//"I worked hard on this.\nIf you want it, please buy it legally"
[[UIApplication sharedApplication] terminate];
}
but I'm too afraid of a false positive to put it in there 'just in case'.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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thanks everyone!

and yes, it is true, if they download it illegaly, they weren't likely to buy it anyway...

But as it is my first app, i was a bit upset!

I will try what ayasin suggested!

Thanks,

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Your best bet is to have your app misbehave in subtle and frustrating ways if you detect a hack. Here's how to detect a hack: How to Thwart iPhone IPA Crackers: /* do something */ though you may want to read more posts on the blog (good info).

I suggest adding it to your next version if you're concerned about this.
Thank you for this awesome link!
I added a check and I hope it works as expected.
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Old 01-31-2009, 09:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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How to detect the cracked app is public now so it doesn't take much for the crackers to find it in your code and crack that too. :-/ Save yourself the time and just ignore it, it's been proven time and time again that fighting piracy is a loosing battle.
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Just for fun, I put the code in and if it comes back cracked it badges the icon with THEIF upon the close
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What is the website, I wan't to make sure my apps aren't listed there.
I found myself here: iModZone Forums Home Page

but a quick google for your app and +cracked will locate more!
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Just for fun, I put the code in and if it comes back cracked it badges the icon with THEIF upon the close
I just hope you spelled it right in your app
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How to detect the cracked app is public now so it doesn't take much for the crackers to find it in your code and crack that too. :-/ Save yourself the time and just ignore it, it's been proven time and time again that fighting piracy is a loosing battle.
This is the case for real cracking (PC) but on the iPhone I believe they simply decrypt your program and add some fake signing signatures (not sure just skimmed an article).

What I'm trying to say is that they don't actually disassemble your code, so they don't have any idea what it's going to do.

Someone please correct me if this is not the case.
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This is the case for real cracking (PC) but on the iPhone I believe they simply decrypt your program and add some fake signing signatures (not sure just skimmed an article).

What I'm trying to say is that they don't actually disassemble your code, so they don't have any idea what it's going to do.

Someone please correct me if this is not the case.
You are correct, that's basically what they do.
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I just hope you spelled it right in your app
If he spelled it right they would have no idea a developer wrote it :P.
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Ha, yes i did. I had to go back to check and see to be sure
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Hi to everyone.
(it's one of the first post, so: hi!!!)

But i'm not to happy right now... so no happy faces...!

I'm sure i'm not the first one to have this problem, but I hope there is a way to solve it.

I found a cracked version of the application i deveoloped.


This is the application link: Givosoft - The software at ur fingers!
And this the cracked link: ibeep | Iphone IPA


They obviously say that the download is available only for "testing" and for "backup". Yea yeea yeaaaa...

I'm so upset, that if i find the IP of that server, i go there and burn it down!


Anyone knows if there is a way to go legally against this situations?
Or if I can do something about it?

and do you have an idea on how much is the percentage of cracked iPhones?

Thanks,

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Old 02-12-2009, 10:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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welcome to the club. My apps are spread all over the web, thanks to this idiots.

report it to piracy--@--apple.com
remove the --

At least Apple has a legal team and these pirates have lots of apps there.
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I released an update to one of my apps recently with the code added in. As of Tuesday the App has been "phoning home" with the cracked users' Device Id and Device Name. I added a switch in my code to do something special if the "phone home" returns a certain string. He he he.

What should I do with this information? Hmmmm.
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I released an update to one of my apps recently with the code added in. As of Tuesday the App has been "phoning home" with the cracked users' Device Id and Device Name. I added a switch in my code to do something special if the "phone home" returns a certain string. He he he.

What should I do with this information? Hmmmm.
First, if it is jailbroken, you can use all kinds of private API to do a lot of stuff to it, and Apple won't know with their testing.

So, look into private API... maybe delete all the other apps on the iPhone so he has to do a factory restore?
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Corrupt something If you do use private frameworks, maybe change permissions to something. I would make an alert pop-up every 2 minutes or so reminding them that piracy is bad
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The first person who run the cracked app is the hacker himself.

No need to be gentle. Erase the whole system.
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